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How does the blood pressure of a healthy person affect his/her Minimum
and Maximum Working heart rate? In other words, should a healthy person with
lower than normal blood pressure systolic around 100 for instance) expect
to have a lower Minimum and Maximum Working heartrate range than a person
with a systolic of 120 or 130?
Thanks, Doug
Doug,
The answer to your question is no. A person's blood pressure will not significantly
affect working heart rates in the manner you described. However, it is true
that the more aerobically trained you are the lower your resting pulse and
BP tend to be. When prescribing exercise without an accurate exercise test
(i.e.. a stress test), the best thing to use is the Karvonen method which
takes into account individual differences in resting pulse. (Don't forget
to subtract 17 additional beats if you are exercising in the water). The normal
BP response to exercise is for systolic pressure to increase and for diastolic
pressure to stay the same or slightly decrease. In healthy people the Karvonen
method is adequate, but in cardiac populations you need to have the results
from a stress test to safely prescribe exercise intensity.
Haley, Exercise Physiologist, ATRIC
My name is Roland. I was diagnosed not long ago with anteriolysthesis
between my L4 and L5. I am a yoga teacher and this pars defect or spondylolisthesis
has created a lot of problems for me. I have a Grade 1 slippage and have a
lot of stiffness pain etc. Nothing has seemed to help until recently.
I was in another state recently and ran into a guy that does Hydro Kinetic
Therapy. He put 2 aqua joggers around my chest, weights on my legs, and a
heavy weight between my legs, and then put me in WARM WATER (91 degrees).
The water was deep. The theory is that I work my legs in a bicycle like circular
motion until my back muscles relax from exhaustion and then the next 15 minutes
decompression occurs in my spine.
I tried this for 5 sessions and am intrigued with it. It seemed to be the
ONLY THING that really helps with this compression in my lower spine and hips.
Does anybody know where I can get more info on this? Is there any research
behind this? What other conditions might this help? Has anyone else had help
from this type of therapy? Are there contraindications?
Your input is most appreciated.
Roland
I've not heard the term "hydrokinetic therapy," but the technique
is one that I've used on my patients since the mid-80's. I was in Hungary
earlier this fall at a Medical hydrology meeting, and spoke to a spa physician
in Budapest who has been using a similar technique for 20 years or more as
well, so this has been around a while. The clinical conditions that it has
been most useful in are spinal stenosis and spondylolisthesis. It is not essential
to drive the back muscles to exhaustion, although muscles need to go to fatigue
to get stronger. Research? There are nearly no aquatic techniques that have
a large body of research behind them, though there are small studies on many.
Contraindications? I have a number of patients who lack the core strength
to stabilize an unstable segment and have increased pain with exercise. I
very seriously doubt that increased pain means anatomic damage, although it
may be tough to convince my fearful patients of that. Neither would I use
this on fresh spine fusion patients.
Bruce E. Becker, MD
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